Does anyone know if there is an actual scripture that says "He fills my heart with joy unspeakable" or something to that effect… It’s the "Joy Unspeakable" that I have in mind
Doodle87g - I have never had an account by that name, in fact, I don’t believe I’ve ever changed my screen name or avatar… But thanks anyway!!
Oh, I do apologise, I mis-read your response!!!

1 Peter 1:8

whom having not seen you love. though now you do not see Him yet believing you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory

Hebrews 11:1-3 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear"

Pertaining to faith in God…

1 Peter 1:8-9 "Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls."

Jesus speaking to Thomas said… John 20:29 "Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

Your lack of faith is what prevents you from believing. In Romans 1:20 it says…"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"

Without faith, and relying on your "logic and reason" you’ll NEVER have a relationship with God. The sad part is that he loves you, and you’re fine with rejecting him. My prayers are with you, and those who are without God.

Peace and Blessings!

the word "faith" is against their religion ;)

plus how boring would it be to accept the evidence for God, instead of making up our their own for evolution?

2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

In the photocopy someone gave me from the book "Blessing or Curse," the author listed that contacting the dead as demonic. Also, I read in "Joy Unspeakable" by JI Packer, that we should never lift experience or what we think the Holy Spirit tells us over what is written in the Bible. The three of the Godhead each having three divisions? No, The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are three, not nine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKCMl2XzTs.

In the photocopy, the author also states that playing hypnotic music is demonic. There are many preachers who do that. For example, it’s usually played at communion in many church services. The music in this sermon is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3jo0ULekn8&feature=related. At least that’s what I believe to be hypnotic music. I used to use that kind of music to help me go to sleep and stay asleep through the racket of noisy neighbors. Those of you familiar with my condition can see why I experimented to find a treatment since what I have is beyond medical science and religion.

Another time, he places a curse on people who question his ministry: Hear David Wilkerson speak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN8y5o272zo. See the referred to footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry1SHI7mkQA.

Another time, he makes false prophecies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg-fyrNwOG0. They play the audio, but not the video — that’s suspicious. I wonder if Hinn really made those predictions about Castro and the homosexuals.

You’ll know them by their fruit — look how he lives: http://ca.netlog.com/go/explore/videos/videoid=551880. And if that sounds made up, here’s a video interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tSlXq2wz4.

What does God have to say about all this? His scripture is clear. Here’s the sermon answering the issue of falling down while under hypnosis, demonic attack and the real thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhiDfD1S5ww. A quote Tim Conway referred to was this: here’s the footage of Hinn talking about taking a machine gun to people: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zv5yBV6bRU. and what he said before that statement here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2becyRCK6LU&NR=1.

First, you need to draw a line between "worship" and "follow".
Then, you have followers - who mainly feel he is led by the Spirit.
While each person believes a little differently, those who are involved in Spirit-led practice feel certain leaders are as well … a bit like Catholics believe about their Pope.
Still, most followers will readily admit the leaders are human and given to error.
Why they believe what that believe is something you can’t copy - and so, can’t understand.
It is probably better that they believe something - after all, we can’t all be intelligent enough to walk without supposed, imagined, real but needed guidance.
Once a person is broken enough times, they reach for something stronger.
Thus Hinn - or Graham - or any number of our exalted gurus serve as a conduit to answers … not as the answers themselves.
Since all the people can’t be right all the time, let them believe as they will so long as it leads to a better walk.

"Times without number and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain, every joy, every thought inside and all the unspeakable small and great in your life must return to you."

You’ve found the circle. Now try to catch yourself. ;)

I was for many years a Catholic but am now Christian Baptist. The reason being i spent many months reviewing scripture and find that the Catholic religion is completely littered with corrupt teachings, everything from confessing your sins to a priest instead of Jesus to worshiping the Pope is all false.The bible warns dozens of times about false teachings and false prophets. I have found dozens of websites that back me up all using scriptural evidence of how corrupt and wrong Catholicism is. For instance "Revelations 22:18: "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.". Catholics have gone as far as creating their own bible. Again "Revelation 15:4 "Only God is Holy". Catholics refer to the Pope as Holy Father they are literally calling the Pope God’s name and again ""Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God…" -Exodus 20:4-5. That verse clearly states it is wrong to even admire and look up to anything but God himself. I could literally go on all day which is the reason i’m no longer catholic and above all that i always felt awkward and uneasy in the catholic church but at my new church for the first time I’ve felt an unspeakable Joy and Love that just overwhelms me and the people there are more Happier, Loving, Caring and Thoughtful then anyone I’ve met in the Catholic church. This to me is undeniable and I fear for all Catholics when the end times come for i am in firm belief with scripture to back me up that Catholicism is against God and they don’t even know it. Here’s just one of the websites explaining this. http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/catholic_devil_worship.htm

You must have left the Catholic Church while still a small child to have so little knowledge of Catholic teaching and practices. Let me see if I can tear down that false straw man you have built here. You spent months reviewing Scripture and most of us who have converted to Catholic Christianity have spent decades studying the Bible and testing Catholic doctrines. What we have found is a fullness of God’s truth without any corrupt teaching but instead a Church that follows God’s Word perfectly and has been for 2000 years.

The only way that was taught by Jesus to confess our sins was to a priest and He even states clearly in Scripture that the priests have the authority and direct commission to act in persona Christi to forgive sins:

http://fiatvolvntastua.blogspot.com/2009/07/confession-to-priest.html

We do not worship the Pope. Never have and never will. We are forbidden to worship anyone or anything but God. If you had been a Catholic you would have known this. there are no false teaching or prophecies in the Catholic Church. There never has been and never will because Jesus promised that His Church will forever be the "pillar and foundation of the truth".

Catholic Christians use the entire Holy Word of our Lord that has been used by the Church for 2000 years in the Old Testament and canonized the New Testament, combining it with the Old Testament, in the beginning of the fifth century. This is historical fact. The Protestants like yourself removed 7 books of Scriptures without any authority. May the Lord have mercy on them.

http://fiatvolvntastua.blogspot.com/2009/06/was-it-catholics-or-protestants-who.html

You bear false witness against the Church by calling us idolaters which again reveals your lie of having been a Catholic. We are forbidden to worship anyone or anything but God.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1h&oq=cate&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS265US265&q=catechism+idolatry

The "Holy" in the title Holy Father refers to His office which was directly commissioned by Jesus. It recognises the authority and divinity of God and does not give praise to the one who holds that office but acknowledges the source. Again, had you been a Catholic Christian you would know this.

It is not surprising that you find joy at your Church. It is your own choice and has nothing to do with being obedient to our Lord that prayed we all be one in His Church. your statement clearly says that you are one of those who the Bible prophesied will no longer be able to endure sound doctrine and will gather around them false teachers that satisfy their itching ears.

SCRIPTURE DOES NOT BACK UP ANY OF THE ACCUSATIONS YOU HAVE MADE IN BUILDING YOUR STRAW MAN TO JUSTIFY YOUR DISOBEDIENCE AND PROTESTS OF CHRIST’S CHURCH.

Bearing false witness is a serious sin and you should verify your accusations before making them.

God bless!

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

I just got done writing about 200 words in another question and punched the wrong button and lost it all. Greer!!!!!!!! Oh well, I have a question for all that do not accept the scientifically prooven Jesus Christ as savior and lord God of the Universe. Why not accept Jesus as your Savior and find joy and peace in your life now and eternal life instead of become dust, rotten flesh and worm food huhhh? ehhhh?Yeeeesss? Nooooo? Why not accept him? Pray for salvation and he will bless you now! Hey???? no???? Yes????? yes , I know you will.
You do not want to continue to be blasphemous anti-Christs and sully the word of the holy God who created you. You have a wounded spirit pray with me now "Jesus? Heal my wound broken spirit by your grace and in your holy name by the blood which was shed at Calvary and is so precious it can heal anyone?
I know that you Blasphemous anti-Christ work very diligently to smite the word of God but I also will create many many accounts at yayhoo and I will fight your spiritual battle with you and We in Christ will rescue you from your satanic demonic anti-Christ spirit and somehow get you saved a get you filled with the holy Spirit and get you filled with joy unspeakable and full of glory! So my fellow brethren and sisters will hell me in this spiritual battle and help to save your souls from damnation and destruction. ..Yes? No? Yes? I know…this is all I have. I have run out of yayhoo answers so I see I must create many accounts like the Antichrist scoundrels and fight this spiritual warfare with their own tactics on the internet! Peace in Christ our Savior amen

Wrong way to do that…

First of all (I’m a Christian by the way) there is no SOLID scientific proof of Jesus or God (there’s science SUPPORTING that they are real). But God did that on purpose, because He wants people to love and believe in Him out of faith (not fact).

Second, God’s Gospel is a Gospel of love- and what you posted doesn’t reflect that at all. You’re post here will not do much except give Christian a more blemished name, make your credibility drop, and NOT bring someone to the truth that is Jesus the Christ.

I hate havin’ to correct a fellow (I HOPE you’re a Christian) believer. But I have to say, fact and force will not convert someone. Only the Holy Spirit can save someone. It’s by "the foolishness of preachers" (meanin’ that it’s foolish to think that a HUMAN can bring someone to salvation, because only God can) that men are brought to the place to be convicted by the Holy Spirit.

This is a gospel song I used to sing at church and I can’t find it anywhere. Here are the lyrics:
Come and go with me to my father’s house, to my father’s house, to my father’s house
there is joy unspeakable joy remarkable peace and happiness in my father’s house
Anyone ever heard of this song?

go to youtube


Empty rhetoric.

Joy is an expression and therefore it is not possible for it to be unspeakable.

Glory is an assigned attribute and therefore it is not possible for something to contain any glory.

PLEASE, would the believers try to read their holy books without the twisted language their religious institutions use. The twisted language is a tool used to return all thoughts back to the religion being taught and as such discourages free thinking.

If you had said "Joy and an impression of glory" that would have been correct. Obviously it is not gratuitously and insinuatingly aggrandising. Do you see the difference and how it affects the way you think, how the abuse of language pulls your thoughts in?

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